Try out the beta again | The Coffeehouse

We made it faster.

http://beta.channel9.msdn.com

Sampy wrote:

We made it faster.

http://beta.channel9.msdn.com

Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'cursor'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://beta.channel9.msdn.com/1/getcss.ashx
Line: 6

"cursor:hand;"

Should be "cursor: pointer;" if you want the "hand", the W3C were a bit silly when naming the values for this particular property.

DCMonkey

It does seem a bit better, especially when first visiting the main Coffeehouse page. It looks like it's not doing the extra ajax topic fetch step in that case.

Thanks!

RoyalSchrubber

Not fast enough. But it's never fast enough for us...

Have you checked site through any european proxy?

wisemx

LikitieSplit fast from here in Johnson City, TN. Wink

Rowan

W3bbo wrote:

Sampy wrote:We made it faster.

http://beta.channel9.msdn.com
"cursor:hand;"

Should be "cursor: pointer;" if you want the "hand", the W3C were a bit silly when naming the values for this particular property.

I don't think it's silly, the word 'hand' is more subjective and wouldn't apply to every OS/browser.

Btw, IE supports both 'hand' and 'pointer', but all other browsers only support 'pointer'.

intelman

If only I could sign in...

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop

10 seconds to load the forums page, 5 seconds for changing forum page and my connection is perfectly fine (20ms ping to google.com, c9 pages load in less than 1 second). time for some page caching?

HumanCompiler

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

10 seconds to load the forums page, 5 seconds for changing forum page and my connection is perfectly fine (20ms ping to google.com, c9 pages load in less than 1 second). time for some page caching?

We'll probably do a video on the architecture of our caching, but trust me...there's plenty of that. The downfall of our caching is that when the site isn't hit very much and things drop out of cache it's pretty slow. Once the site gets going with the kind of traffic c9 usually gets it will be much faster. After going to coffeehouse pages on the beta and paging through the first few pages, they're coming up for me really fast. Initial page load is 2.6 seconds and paging is around 400 to 500 milliseconds. This is from my home connection (while VPN'd into work).

So more than likely when you hit it, there wasn't much traffic to it and it was loading everything from sql. We were having some app recycles that were making it slow (i.e. having to load everything from sql again instead of cache) but we believe we got those taken care of. If not, we'll get them fixed soon.

HumanCompiler

W3bbo wrote:

Sampy wrote: We made it faster.

http://beta.channel9.msdn.com

Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'cursor'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://beta.channel9.msdn.com/1/getcss.ashx
Line: 6

"cursor:hand;"

Should be "cursor: pointer;" if you want the "hand", the W3C were a bit silly when naming the values for this particular property.

Is that all you've got? Tongue Out

A silly little nitpick I could fix in a minute? You can do better than that. Smiley

HumanCompiler

intelman wrote:

If only I could sign in...

Does reset password work for you?

LaBomba

HumanCompiler wrote:

W3bbo wrote:

Sampy wrote: We made it faster.

http://beta.channel9.msdn.com

Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'cursor'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://beta.channel9.msdn.com/1/getcss.ashx
Line: 6

"cursor:hand;"

Should be "cursor: pointer;" if you want the "hand", the W3C were a bit silly when naming the values for this particular property.

Is that all you've got? A silly little nitpick I could fix in a minute? You can do better than that.

Good actually, it's time to just release the damn thing.

HumanCompiler

LaBomba wrote:

Good actually, it's time to just release the damn thing.

Glad you agree. Smiley

Duncanma

HumanCompiler wrote:

intelman wrote: If only I could sign in...

Does reset password work for you?

It does work, but we haven't turned on emailing... it is also possible it is the case issue we discovered today.

For those of you following along at home, it turns out that C9 Classic (as we affectionaly refer to this code base) does a .ToLower() on the password before validating it. So... that means that your password on this site is case-insensitive (go ahead, try it... I certainly did as soon as I realized this). I wasn't aware of this when I wrote the import tool though and just moved the passwords over as is... so suddenly your password on the beta has to be lower case to work. Easy enough to fix, but that could be the cause of some of the login issues people have had.

Cybermagellan

How are we supposed to sign in?

Is it worth creating an account to sign in, or by the time I do it will you build passport into it?

Bas

Duncanma wrote:

HumanCompiler wrote:

intelman wrote: If only I could sign in...

Does reset password work for you?

It does work, but we haven't turned on emailing...

That would explain why I'm not getting my new password mailed to me. Tongue Out

HumanCompiler

Cybermagellan wrote:

How are we supposed to sign in?

Is it worth creating an account to sign in, or by the time I do it will you build passport into it?

Registration doesn't work on the beta (on purpose). ATM you can only sign in if you know your username and password. Standby though, we have Windows Live ID support coming (it's done just not deployed).

blowdart

HumanCompiler wrote:

tandby though, we have Windows Live ID support coming (it's done just not deployed).

Live ID. How 1990s

Tongue Out

Cyonix

It feels really good. Release it Tongue Out

Zeus

It still crashes my FF 2.0.0.14 ... I disabled firebug as you suggested last time, but it still crashes.

I was viewing the coffeehouse when it happened ...

wisemx

blowdart wrote:

Live ID. How 1990s

Why so?
I prefer Live ID or Card Space for everything.

theogray_com

Only thing I found is that the back/forward on the browser doesn't change the window title back to the correct page number.

EDIT: Only a problem when going back to Page 1 with browser button.

i.e. Click next page arrow, content and window title updates to "Page 2 - ...". If you hit browser back button the page content is changed back to page 1, but the window title stays as "Page 2 - ..."

Apart from that, great looking new beta; liking the very clean look and feel, and I'm finding the beta much faster than the live version at the mo.

jamie

it is indeed faster. cool.

re liveID

i always liked passport and it is handy for ms to have msdn accounts and hotmail etc linked with one login.

what im not sure of is "opinion"

do you really want what you ramble about on c9 - linked directly to your ms - real info?

sort of like "click here to let ms have access to and read all your emails" (may be used for 3rd parties or advertising purposes)

...that's why i like my c9 login separate

HumanCompiler

Zeus wrote:

It still crashes my FF 2.0.0.14 ... I disabled firebug as you suggested last time, but it still crashes.

I was viewing the coffeehouse when it happened ...

Very strange. I do all development in FF 2.0.0.14 (well for at least however long it's been out) and I'm unable to reproduce this. Sad

What version of Silverlight are you running? That's my only guess ATM of what could cause that. I have 1.0 installed on this machine. I also have the Firebug beta installed, but you disabling it should've done the same thing. What about other plug-ins?

HumanCompiler

jamie, you bring that up a lot, but I'm still unsure what you mean. You don't have to use hotmail for your Windows Live ID. If you sign up for Windows Live ID with your own e-mail (of your choice) it's just associating it. Windows Live ID is just an auth provider. We don't even store your e-mail address (per WLID policy) in our DB if you're using WLID for authenticating with our site.